It just keeps getting worse. 10 man Arthas and Malygos

[Gamerz]

au.pc.gamespy.com/pc/world-of-warcraft-wrath-of-the-lich-king/872778p3.html
Kaplan believes that having Naxxramas as a new 10- and 25-man introductory raid serves a few functions for Wrath of the Lich King. First, it lets the vast bulk of players experience what many believe are some of the best raid encounters Blizzard ever produced. Finally, it serves as the start of the new "two-tier" raiding system. Going forward, all raid dungeons will have both 10- and 25-man versions with their separate itemization lists and progression tracks. There will be no attunement requirements nor will getting into a 25-man raid be dependent on any 10-man raiding.

There will be a 25 man and 10 man Naxxramas. I was all for lvl 80 Naxx since it fits in with the game story but 10 man Naxx?
Now you can go through and defeat two of the most powerful warcraft characters in 10 mans, Arthas/Lich King and Malygos.
I'm all for have two seperate tiers for raiding but at least give up different content or at least aq20/40 (even though they were horrible instances). Having the same bosses in 10 mans and 25 mans is just plain stupid.
Have instances for the raiders with harder bosses and better loot and instances for casuals but the tier gear is X.5 whereas the hardcore content will be X.0 gear (ie hardcore instance has tier 8 and the more casual tier has 7.5).
Once casual guilds have finished the casual instance they can have a shot at the hardcore instance or move onto the next X.5 instance. Hardcore raiders can do the casual 25mans on days off on if they feel like it.
But having the same boss as a 10 man and 25 man instance just ruins the story. And no, Kael 5 man is not the same. The 5 man Kael is him after his defeat in Tempest Keep. Lvl 80 Naxxramas fits in the story because it has moved back to Northrend and will not exist as a 40 man instance anymore.

[ultramega]

This is a blessing for people who can't scrape together 25 people for raiding. It's not about skill. It's just about numbers.

In the past, 40 man content was out of reach for many players. Raids were designed with the devs fully well knowing that the vast majority of the playerbase would never see it. We were stuck doing our UBRS and Strat/Scholo and we had better be damned happy doing it.

Zul'Gurub came out, omg we only need 20 people?! It was difficult content with an epic feel that didn't require a zerg of people. It was a huge success.

TBC, the max raid is 25 people with 10 people for Kara and ZA. Again, smashing success. But still, few people are seeing all of this content that's being designed: TK, Hyjal, BT. Why? Can't get 25 people.

I think it's awesome that they're finally going to make the top-end content more accessable to the masses. So hardcore raiders won't feel as leet that zomgcasuals have killed the same boss they have. Tough. WoW is, and has always been about, casuals.

[ionscorp]

I think it's a fine idea, who cares to be honest. Those that don't want to be in a hardcore guild can just do the 10 mans and get it done. You have time and the patience to do 25 mans with a guild so be it, you are rewarded with better loot.

[Mr. Hrm]

Originally Posted by ionscorp

I think it's a fine idea, who cares to be honest. Those that don't want to be in a hardcore guild can just do the 10 mans and get it done. You have time and the patience to do 25 mans with a guild so be it, you are rewarded with better loot.

Yeah, it seems fine.

[Mgn]

Hehe arthas is going to be killed by10 level 80s


cant wait till death wing and the spirit of sergeras is killed by 10 man raids.

overall i think it is pretty cool.